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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: Titan Residuum
« Last post by Piralyn on December 12, 2018, 12:10:17 PM »
Pedantic nit #1: You can get 385 Azerite if you do M+10 keys or better.
Not any more.  The residuum system replaces the chance to get Azerite gear from the M+ cache.

What? Why would they do this?

That is a terrible idea.
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: 8.1.x stuff
« Last post by Marco on December 12, 2018, 11:04:17 AM »
It seems likely that flying part 2 will require Naz'jatar stuff which isn't in the game yet.  I had a better impression of the new warfront than Snique did, although it was laggy for me last night.

Separately: Azerite Knowledge apaprently reached its maximum level until season 2 last week, so for the moment there is no benefit to preserving Sunday/Monday emissaries until Tuesday.  The current amount of knowledge makes it pretty easy to unlock traits even on 385 gear, so that seems like a reasonable choice, but I don't think it was communicated to players in advance.
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: Titan Residuum
« Last post by Marco on December 12, 2018, 09:21:09 AM »
Pedantic nit #1: You can get 385 Azerite if you do M+10 keys or better.
Not any more.  The residuum system replaces the chance to get Azerite gear from the M+ cache.

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Pedantic nit #2: Given that the Darkshore warfront is rewarding 385 gear via the quest, I would hazard a guess that you can get 385 Azerite from there as well.
Possibly, but I doubt we'll see warfronts rewarding 415 gear in season 2, except perhaps at the very end (similar to how it's only rewarding 385 gear in the final weeks of season 1).
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: Titan Residuum
« Last post by jsoh on December 12, 2018, 08:52:31 AM »
Pedantic nit #1: You can get 385 Azerite if you do M+10 keys or better.
Pedantic nit #2: Given that the Darkshore warfront is rewarding 385 gear via the quest, I would hazard a guess that you can get 385 Azerite from there as well.
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: Titan Residuum
« Last post by Marco on December 12, 2018, 08:05:41 AM »
If you don't raid mythic, there is no other way of getting 385 pieces (415 pieces in season 2), so you won't have gotten better gear anyway.  (There might be a another avenue through high-level PvP, I guess.)

I believe there is no raid buff trait in the next raid.  From an interview, Reorigination Array is something they thought would fit well with the Uldir theme, not something they plan to do for every BfA raid.
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: Titan Residuum
« Last post by **andius on December 12, 2018, 07:58:08 AM »
From what I can see mostly not worth it.

You can either grind and hope you get lucky with the RNG or have a 5 times longer grind which by which time you may have got better gear anyway.

To top it off they are dungeon Azerite pieces so they so they are not going the raid buff trait (Archive of the Titans, Enables Reorigination Array)
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: 8.1.x stuff
« Last post by Winston on December 12, 2018, 06:32:45 AM »
Is there any advance word on the requirement for flying, presumably in 8.2?

I ask because there's not much content in 8.1 that intrigues me, especially given the review Snique just gave. The only reason I'd pursue the new 8.1 stuff is if the requirements for flying included gear or achievements that could only be conveniently obtained now.

Edit: It was Snique who gave the review, not Ghoselle.
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: 8.1.x stuff
« Last post by Snique on December 12, 2018, 05:55:13 AM »
The only new thing I tried today was the new warfront and I basically hated it. It's the same as the other one but with gated progression steps and less obvious building stuff to do. It seems like just a way to drag the thing out. OTOH, I can suffer through that once per character for a piece of 385 gear.
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Titan Residuum
« Last post by Marco on December 11, 2018, 08:24:08 PM »
I'll try to update this first post for season 2 when numbers are available and it's closer to starting (or already here).  Observations based on season 1 numbers:

* It's probably best to save your residuum until season 2, but don't expect an amazing jump-start from your savings.  The season 2 numbers (income and costs) will be higher.  We know by how much, but it might be as high as a factor of ten.

* Titan residuum is only used to get dungeon Azerite pieces, which are six of the Azerite options for each slot (per armor type).  You can look at the vendor (next to the inn, with the other ethereals) to see what the pieces are for your armor type.  You can look those up on ptr.wowhead.com to see what they will be like in season 2 with the fifth ring.

* Specific 385 Azerite pieces cost four times as much as a random 385 piece.  If you buy a random piece, you still get to control the slot.  If the same ratio holds in season 2, it may make more sense to buy random pieces unless one of the six options is far better than the others.

* If you do a mythic+10 and scrap three 370 Azerite pieces in a week, that's about 100 residuum.  That's three random 385s in five weeks, but it would take five months to buy three specific pieces.

* Blizzard often starts out stingy and changes things to be more generous over time, since it's harder to move in the other direction.  For this system, they could also set the season 2 numbers to be more generous than the season 1 numbers, or add more sources of residuum income via one of the other game systems (warfronts, islands, emissaries).

Season 1 reference numbers:

* scrap 340: +1
* scrap 355: +3
* scrap 370: +12
* scrap 385: +35
* +4 cache: +6
* +5 cache: +8
* +10 cache: +60
* +11 cache: +64
* treasure map: +24 (not sure if variable)
* buy 355 random: -15
* buy 370 random: -50
* buy 385 random: -165
* buy 385 specific: 675
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Theorycrafting and Class Discussion / Re: 8.1.x stuff
« Last post by ghoselle on December 11, 2018, 04:08:00 PM »
I got 60 from a +10,  8 from a +5, 6 from +4.

I also got 3 each from scrapping three 355 shoulders/chest/helm and 12 from a 370.
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